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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://afcmin.org/ateam/391/defining-the-emergingemergent-churchmovementconversation/comment-page-1#comment-1743</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think that the Emergent movement is a penduluum movement swinging too far to the other side of the spectrum.  It is an  over energetic response to modernism.  I&#039;ve written about just a small fraction of the issues at http://emissaryx.blogspot.com/.  I admittedly broadbrush a bit!  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the Emergent movement is a penduluum movement swinging too far to the other side of the spectrum.  It is an  over energetic response to modernism.  I&#39;ve written about just a small fraction of the issues at <a href="http://emissaryx.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://emissaryx.blogspot.com/</a>.  I admittedly broadbrush a bit!  <img src="http://afcmin.org/ateam/wp-includes/images/smilies/simple-smile.png" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 07:07:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[as you are defining definitions. I believe there is a distinction between missions and evangelism. Missions is cross cultural and although a person may feel like an alien in their own country rarely can they be a missionary. why the distinction? I beleive God has blessed the missions effort in a special way that is different than evangelism. For one the missionsary is not blinded by the contempt for the familiar (although they could be blinded by their own culture) . There are different opportunities and responsibilities and difficulties. American believers often make this mistake. It also makes it easier to justify so many Christians congregating in one place instead of truly going into all nations. Yes people do come from other nations to the US but now they are one down and you are one up. We have the advantage as natives. Missionaries do not. It was stated earlier in this article by another author you quoted. The point- we need to get out of the ghetto. The church is still not a community but a place to go. It is still chuch for the churched and radical paradigm shifts will need to happen. It seems people are inching there way out to the frings making sure things look relatively the same and are dressed the same so that thye pastor wont get too mad or other Christians wont think we have &quot;left the church&quot;. Which is a ridiculous notion when church is the people of God and not an organization.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as you are defining definitions. I believe there is a distinction between missions and evangelism. Missions is cross cultural and although a person may feel like an alien in their own country rarely can they be a missionary. why the distinction? I beleive God has blessed the missions effort in a special way that is different than evangelism. For one the missionsary is not blinded by the contempt for the familiar (although they could be blinded by their own culture) . There are different opportunities and responsibilities and difficulties. American believers often make this mistake. It also makes it easier to justify so many Christians congregating in one place instead of truly going into all nations. Yes people do come from other nations to the US but now they are one down and you are one up. We have the advantage as natives. Missionaries do not. It was stated earlier in this article by another author you quoted. The point- we need to get out of the ghetto. The church is still not a community but a place to go. It is still chuch for the churched and radical paradigm shifts will need to happen. It seems people are inching there way out to the frings making sure things look relatively the same and are dressed the same so that thye pastor wont get too mad or other Christians wont think we have &#8220;left the church&#8221;. Which is a ridiculous notion when church is the people of God and not an organization.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 16:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently, the Emergent Church movement&#039;s pro-homosexual advocates were at Azusa Pacific University seeking to gain approval from mainline Christian universities.  Tony Campolo spoke at an APU chapel service openly attempting to make a distinction between homosexuality and homsexual erroticism; the implication being that homosexuality itself is not sin.  When I saw the service on line I could no longer remain silent.  I am now dealing with these issues at my new blogsite: &lt;a href=&quot;http://azusapacificalumni.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.  My post on &quot;Emerging Buzzzzwords&quot; may be of interest to you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently, the Emergent Church movement&#39;s pro-homosexual advocates were at Azusa Pacific University seeking to gain approval from mainline Christian universities.  Tony Campolo spoke at an APU chapel service openly attempting to make a distinction between homosexuality and homsexual erroticism; the implication being that homosexuality itself is not sin.  When I saw the service on line I could no longer remain silent.  I am now dealing with these issues at my new blogsite: <a href="http://azusapacificalumni.com" rel="nofollow"></a>.  My post on &#8220;Emerging Buzzzzwords&#8221; may be of interest to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 15:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I dito sez, the proffs here at fuller woud definatel put Emergent under missional, and then include a lot of others with missional, not emergent.  
But whatever, good post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dito sez, the proffs here at fuller woud definatel put Emergent under missional, and then include a lot of others with missional, not emergent.<br />
But whatever, good post.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://afcmin.org/ateam/391/defining-the-emergingemergent-churchmovementconversation/comment-page-1#comment-1739</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Apr 2006 05:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thanks for the write up. It was a good perspective and fair.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the write up. It was a good perspective and fair.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 23:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah I feel that.  I just don&#039;t know if I would say that Emergent is a timeless concept.  Maybe it is.
That remains one of the most disturbing things I&#039;ve heard from a prof... ever.
SEZ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I feel that.  I just don&#39;t know if I would say that Emergent is a timeless concept.  Maybe it is.<br />
That remains one of the most disturbing things I&#39;ve heard from a prof&#8230; ever.<br />
SEZ</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 22:25:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Scott,
I feel like missional is just as buzzy. It may have less baggage, but it&#039;s used so flippantly by just about everyone that I don&#039;t think it really means much. I think Andrew Jackson&#039;s post about &quot;emergentizing&quot; applies to a lot of these things- missional, authentic, conversation, community, etc. There&#039;s still value to these words, and we should want to engage in being all of these, but they&#039;re so hip and used loosely that we may be better off with different terminology. As Dr. Gomes would say, we need to get a mental enema...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Scott,<br />
I feel like missional is just as buzzy. It may have less baggage, but it&#39;s used so flippantly by just about everyone that I don&#39;t think it really means much. I think Andrew Jackson&#39;s post about &#8220;emergentizing&#8221; applies to a lot of these things- missional, authentic, conversation, community, etc. There&#39;s still value to these words, and we should want to engage in being all of these, but they&#39;re so hip and used loosely that we may be better off with different terminology. As Dr. Gomes would say, we need to get a mental enema&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 19:56:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rog -
Methinks those are good overservations.  Especially that there are good and less-good teams beginning to be defined in the EC &quot;movement.&quot;
It is probably symantics, but when you say...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rog &#8211;<br />
Methinks those are good overservations.  Especially that there are good and less-good teams beginning to be defined in the EC &#8220;movement.&#8221;<br />
It is probably symantics, but when you say&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2006 14:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Roger! Some of my comments on your earlier posts on the emerging church were exactly directed toward this end. I&#039;m grateful that you&#039;re now making this all-important distinction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Roger! Some of my comments on your earlier posts on the emerging church were exactly directed toward this end. I&#39;m grateful that you&#39;re now making this all-important distinction.</p>
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