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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello, folks,
I may as well jump in here.  This is excellent discussion, BTW.  Thank you. I found this conversation last night, while I was looking at the Phil Johnson blog, and saw the link here.
I think that radical feminism is a political movement.  It has its roots in anti-Christian Marxism.  That is fairly easy to document. If you are  interested, look at Mary Kassian&#039;s book The Feminist Gospel for documentation.  
Now, this radical child of the 60s has grown up, is growing old, and is  invading the Evangelical church.  It has been active in the liberal churches for decades, but is just gaining a head of steam among Evangelicals.
Yes, men are &quot;to blame&quot;, since they did listen to the lies about how evil patriarchy is.  So, since they did not want to be branded as evil, they tried to change. They tried to make room for the downtrodden women who were being liberated from the oppressors.
Women are to blame, since we listened to the lies about how downtrodden we were - how degrading it is to be baby machines, how unfullfilling it is to just care for the house and the needs of those living in the home.  We were used.  We were downtrodden.
We rebelled.
So, I don&#039;t know if men and women are equally guilty, but we are all guilty.
The solution?  Return to the Biblical patterns, and what men and women of God have traditionally understood to be God&#039;s order.
Thank God for men like Grudem - and the men and women at the CBMW - who are pointing the way, refuting the lies of egalitarian feminism, and giving all of us sound Biblical arguments, without being reactionary or extreme.
Grudem is such a kind, godly man, too.  I find it amazing, considering the amount of hatred the Christian feminists feel for him.  
Yes, I mean hatred.  
Thank you for discussing this rationally.
Donna L. Carlaw]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, folks,<br />
I may as well jump in here.  This is excellent discussion, BTW.  Thank you. I found this conversation last night, while I was looking at the Phil Johnson blog, and saw the link here.<br />
I think that radical feminism is a political movement.  It has its roots in anti-Christian Marxism.  That is fairly easy to document. If you are  interested, look at Mary Kassian&#39;s book The Feminist Gospel for documentation.<br />
Now, this radical child of the 60s has grown up, is growing old, and is  invading the Evangelical church.  It has been active in the liberal churches for decades, but is just gaining a head of steam among Evangelicals.<br />
Yes, men are &#8220;to blame&#8221;, since they did listen to the lies about how evil patriarchy is.  So, since they did not want to be branded as evil, they tried to change. They tried to make room for the downtrodden women who were being liberated from the oppressors.<br />
Women are to blame, since we listened to the lies about how downtrodden we were &#8211; how degrading it is to be baby machines, how unfullfilling it is to just care for the house and the needs of those living in the home.  We were used.  We were downtrodden.<br />
We rebelled.<br />
So, I don&#39;t know if men and women are equally guilty, but we are all guilty.<br />
The solution?  Return to the Biblical patterns, and what men and women of God have traditionally understood to be God&#39;s order.<br />
Thank God for men like Grudem &#8211; and the men and women at the CBMW &#8211; who are pointing the way, refuting the lies of egalitarian feminism, and giving all of us sound Biblical arguments, without being reactionary or extreme.<br />
Grudem is such a kind, godly man, too.  I find it amazing, considering the amount of hatred the Christian feminists feel for him.<br />
Yes, I mean hatred.<br />
Thank you for discussing this rationally.<br />
Donna L. Carlaw</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Apr 2006 00:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Roger,
You&#039;re probably right that part of the solution to feminism is that men relearn what it means to be a man and, more importantly, what it means to be Christlike in every area of life.  I don&#039;t think this will happen, however, until women also learn to let men be men.  Men bear the primarily responsibility, but women are equally to blame.  I also don&#039;t think that things will change until the church does a better job of addressing gender differences (more than simply having mens and womens bible studies and prayer meetings).  The church likes to compartmentalize and stereotype, but it does very little to appeal to and meet the needs of the different interests represented in the body.  Rather than simply perpetuating the status quo, I think all of us have to take active and often difficult steps to restore the proper order.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Roger,<br />
You&#39;re probably right that part of the solution to feminism is that men relearn what it means to be a man and, more importantly, what it means to be Christlike in every area of life.  I don&#39;t think this will happen, however, until women also learn to let men be men.  Men bear the primarily responsibility, but women are equally to blame.  I also don&#39;t think that things will change until the church does a better job of addressing gender differences (more than simply having mens and womens bible studies and prayer meetings).  The church likes to compartmentalize and stereotype, but it does very little to appeal to and meet the needs of the different interests represented in the body.  Rather than simply perpetuating the status quo, I think all of us have to take active and often difficult steps to restore the proper order.</p>
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