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Anonymous — Wed, 13 Apr 2005 01:42:00 +0000

I appreciate these words, thank you. SOLI DEO GLORIA Carla Rolfe http://emergentno.blogspot.com

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Anonymous — Mon, 04 Apr 2005 04:04:00 +0000

by Anonymous at 02:44PM (PST) on Mar 28, 2005
Murdock,
I think you have overstated accusations against you. For example, the judgmentalism I talked about in my comment was not directed at you specifically. I only know of one place where the word is used.
I said: “…critiquing a diverse conversation shows we not only don't understand emergent, but have decided to judgmentally broadbrush and demonize those involved. I think I worded that right.”
Notice I said “we.” I was trying to speak as one of us, evangelicals. And as I look back, that's also why I used the word “demonize” that you were upset about. It was a response to so many who are overreacting to emergent.
If you really desire a good discussion as you say, I encourage you to recheck the accusations and try to be generous about it. Maybe you aren't giving the benefit of the doubt to those who are trying to make clear argument, not statements about you personally.
Either way, I'm glad you are trying to work for good discussion. There is little of that going on, and I appreciate it. I came to discuss things on this site because I know how frustrating it is to want the discussion but people who criticize only talk AT you, not with you.
Per your comment, please provide evidence where those in emergent aren't open to and willing to accept criticism from the outside. I think that's a false claim.
I agree with Stephen's guidelines and I'm glad you reposted them.
Steve
Re: Re: Discussing Emergent: A Plea for Realism and Charity
by Anonymous at 02:53PM (PST) on Mar 28, 2005
I also want to add, I'm far from perfect in these discussions. It's much easier to “fire back” than to be thoughtful and generous in our responses. Where I have failed at that, all apologies. I will try as best I can to read generously.
Blessings and Peace.
Steve
http://www.stevekmccoy.com
http://www.stevekmccoy.com/sbc
Re: Discussing Emergent: A Plea for Realism and Charity
by Bill Ekhardt at 02:56PM (PST) on Mar 28, 2005
I think attempts to keep conversation healthy are called for. It is not easy. I appreciate your desire to support that end.
Re: Discussing Emergent: A Plea for Realism and Charity
by Murdock at 03:54PM (PST) on Mar 28, 2005
Steve, the “Rhymes with Kerouac” commentor on Andrew Jones' is an example of someone who doesn't want to engage criticism. Also, as Brett Kunkle pointed out in his post on whether or not Emergent is a movement, the desire to call it merely a conversation at least appears to be an avenue of avoiding critique. If all people are doing is asking questions, then what is there for us to critique? You've obviously engaged some criticism here, so I don't think you're guilty of this per se, but I think some are.
I'll add to your addition, I've probably been just as guilty of “firing back” as you have, so I apologize as well for anything that is out of line with the goals Iv'e stated here.
Thanks guys.
Re: Re: Discussing Emergent: A Plea for Realism and Charity
by Anonymous at 04:55PM (PST) on Mar 28, 2005
I don't know what purpose the guy on AJ's blog has behind his words. What's his motivation? Do you have reason to believe his motivation is to not engage criticism? Show it. He didn't want the kind of dialogue that was “endlessly arguing for no apparent purpose.” He doesn't seem to be against criticism or argument, but endless and purposeless arguing. If he has said things to prove what you claim, I invite you to show it. The evidence is against your point.
But you did say “many of those within Emergent don

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