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By: Jerry Pierce

Jerry Pierce — Fri, 01 Sep 2006 21:15:34 +0000

Yes, I would think that they are mutally dependent. Culture/reality influences (creates) language and language then forms culture (Which came first?). In that sense one could say that language create reality. But my point is that these language/culture transitions occur on macro levels as well as on the micro, subcultural level. Computer technology would be one example of a rapid, inter-cultural, macro shift. Urban Bohemians and rural hillbillies have a point of rapport if they are computer geeks. Their worlds intersect there. Technology has bridged cultures. That's my best stab at what you were asking. In reading back over my post, I must say I do see the danger of cultural segmentation in obstructing meaningful communcation. I guess I'm still a skeptic on how far removed we are from rational, foundationalist thinking. Gravity still pulls me down; thermodynamics still takes its toll. Am I discounting this too much?

By: Brian W

Brian W — Fri, 01 Sep 2006 20:15:14 +0000

Sounds good.

By: Amy

Amy — Fri, 01 Sep 2006 09:58:41 +0000

You are all asking such great questions! I don't know if I'll have time to respond to you all (although, I'm sure this topic will come around again, so we can continue when that happens). But Brian, I started to write a response to you, and it became way too long. I'm going to turn it into a post and you'll see it sometime in the next week, so please continue the discussion there.

By: dbright

dbright — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:21:22 +0000

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By: Brian W

Brian W — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 03:12:28 +0000

I hear you line of argumentation, Amy, but it seems so speculative. For example, I think my hypothetical example makes more sense than yours. But how can we test the validity of either one? We really can't. It's based largely on our own intuitions about the destructiveness of a certain worldview (in their extreme cases, I might add, which by nature are hardly held by the masses). One thing I've got against extreme modernism that you don't have against extreme postmodernism is I've got history. We really haven't lived through a couple of centuries to see the destructive impact of postmodernism. We have witnessed a couple of hundreds where Enlightenment values ruled the day. In that time, we've had enough wars promulgated by modernist values and tendencies.

But thinking biblically again, what truly restrains sin? Obviously, the gospel not merely restrains it, but conquers it. The only other entity that the scriptures seems to entrust this power to restrain (surely not well or even victoriously) is government. I'm thinking specifically of Romans 13 where rulers are set up for the good of the people. But we obviously know this isn't a universal claim, since history is flooded with rulers who did not look for justice or for the good of the people. Is a government persuaded by a worldview? I suppose so we are back into the “whose worldview is worse” debate, but we've already noted (at least I did) that a question like this is largely speculative and can really only be accurately based on historical precedent.

I sense your passion for truth and your caution against extreme postmodern views seeping into the church, but it seems your original argument maybe comes from an overly sensitive reaction to postmodern intuitions. Do you think you're being fair to the more sensibly thinking postmodern ideas?

By: len hualmarson

len hualmarson — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:43:51 +0000

This is only tangentially related.. but where it would be inaccurate to say that “language creates reality” I think I could argue that “language creates culture” or at least that language and culture/world-view are in a mutually dependent relationship. It is a challenge communicating across symbolic worlds, but we do it all the time. At the same time the recognition that culture has its own world of discourse allows us to “see our seeing” .. to acknowledge that the lenses we use both limit.. and make possible.. our particular seeing. Whether you have quibbles with this or not.. would you say that this is a particularly postmodern view.. or is it merely post-foundationalist?

By: Jerry Pierce

Jerry Pierce — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:02:30 +0000

Interesting argument, Amy. I wonder if these “languages” of the postmodern construct that separate communities is so distinct that meaningful communication would be, even in a truly po-mo culture, all that difficult. America in, say, 2030, would have a dominant culture of some kind to which all who participate on any level would need to understand. The world is too small a place for so much compartmentalization to exist. We are globalized and interdependent.

Certainly, there are pockets of obscurity. Evangelical Christianity is one such pocket for the social elite in the Northeast, for example. But it is not live and let live for them.

I agree in the scenario you describe that violence would be the inevitable result, because the postmodernist would relent to his ideals of “live and let live” and give in to his firm belief that his well-being trumps the well-being of others.

It's sort of like religious liberty. It works beautifully—you worship your God, I'll worship mine—so long as no one's religion mandates slitting throats.

That's why postmodernism—as a philosophy anyway—will soon wilt if it is not already doing so. It doesn't mesh well with the real world, where jihadists wish to kill you and me for the glory of Allah.

Hopefully, the reality of such abhorrent evil in the world will drive people back to asking the hard questions of existence and meaning instead of erecting absurdities such as postmodernism.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:40:06 +0000

Amy, I really enjoy our discussions.

If the natural world is all there is and we evolved with no purpose and no design, there's no way to know that our perceptions match up with reality.

Epistemologically, I'm a Kantian (more or less), so yes, I agree that there is no way to know that our perceptions match up with some objective "reality," what Kant would call the ding an sich or the "noumenal" world. Practically speaking, though, this doesn't bother me, for two reasons. First, what our senses do match up with, intersubjetively, seems to be good enough. All a posteriori knowledge is tentative, but the scientific method seems to work awfully well. Second, I think it's pretty clear that we have objective a priori knowledge that in turn functions as regulative principles; this is Kant's insight that things can be phenomenologically real but transcendentally ideal. I should add that this isn't inherently atheistic; R.C. Sproul, for example, relies upon Kantian epistemology -- although he (and I) both reject evidentialist apologetics. Obviously, although the human mind cannot reason upwards from the phenomenal to the noumenal, there is nothing to prevent a divine mind from reasoning downward through revelation. As Kant said, "I have found it necessary to deny knowledge in order to make room for faith."

Our perceptions could just be things that helped us survive in the past, but that doesn't mean they line up with the truth. (This idea is part of what pushed modernism into postmodernism.)

And I think the postmoderns are making the same error you're making here; namely, conflating "transcendental reality" with "truth." If I say, "this apple is red," that is a veridical statement. It is capable of being either true or false, and empirical observation will either verify or falsify it. I do not need to know, transcendentally, what the ding an sich of the apple is in order to speak meaningfully about whether that particular statement is true or not. Here, I would employ something like Nozick's solution to the Gettier problem as a criterion for what counts as empirical knowledge. Thus: while I hold to Kant's dichotomy between the phenomenal and the noumenal, I do not think that necessitates a rejection of the concept of truth (or even, in the case of pure reason, of absolute truth, such as arithmetic). Hopefully that makes at least some sense!

However, as a Christian, I believe my senses were designed to match up with the world, so I can have true knowledge of it.

I find this a very interesting argument, and one that I haven't encountered before. In a way, it's sort of a mirror image to the Kantian analysis I've given above; you seem to be claiming that the phenomenal world that we observe has been ordained by God to be metaphysically equivalent to the noumenal world of things in themselves. (As an interesting side note, this is the exact same argument that the atheist Ayn Randians use -- minus the whole "ordained by God" bit, of course.) Am I correct in parsing what you've said? If so, then I wonder what you make of the fact that there seems to be so much in the natural world that our senses are, by design, unable to perceive? Consider: if our eyes were just slightly different, we would see infrared as just another "color" -- whereas right now we cannot perceive it at all. Indeed, the categorization of various parts of the electromagnetic spectrum as "visible light" versus "invisible light" is just a convention stemming from the limitations of our perceptions. Here, let's try it as an example. Take two identical white ceramic plates. Place one in a 300-degree oven for 20 minutes, and the other in a freezer for 20 minutes. Then put both plates behind a locked glass door, and ask someone to tell them apart by sight. To the human eye, these plates will appear exactly the same, but to an eye capable of perceiving electromagnetic waves that are just a teeny, tiny bit shorter than the tolerances of the unaided human eye, the two plates will look vastly different. Are our senses truly the best correspondence to reality in this example?