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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 00:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[SeekerOfTruth,
In addition to David&#039;s questions, I&#039;d have to ask the following.  When you said,
&quot;So anything after the tower of babel has been just that &quot;Babel&quot;, confusion by way of the languages.&quot;
how (unless you know how to read Hebrew) did you know about Babel?  You read about it in an English translation, yes?  If I translated your words into German, would they cease to have the same meaning?
&quot;The word Jesus and for that matter Christian, could not have been said 2000 years ago because there was no English dialect.&quot;
Correct.  I could also not have said &quot;bread&quot;, but I could have eaten it, because the type (the thing itself, what we call bread) existed, even though our token (arbitrary collection of sounds and/or letters we use to represent it, i.e. &quot;bread&quot;)  didn&#039;t.  If I call the city in Italy &quot;Florence&quot; and the Italians call it &quot;Firenze&quot;, does that mean we&#039;re not talking about the same place?  I&#039;m really having trouble following your logic, so any elaboration would be helpful in actually seeking the truth :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SeekerOfTruth,<br />
In addition to David&#39;s questions, I&#39;d have to ask the following.  When you said,<br />
&#8220;So anything after the tower of babel has been just that &#8220;Babel&#8221;, confusion by way of the languages.&#8221;<br />
how (unless you know how to read Hebrew) did you know about Babel?  You read about it in an English translation, yes?  If I translated your words into German, would they cease to have the same meaning?<br />
&#8220;The word Jesus and for that matter Christian, could not have been said 2000 years ago because there was no English dialect.&#8221;<br />
Correct.  I could also not have said &#8220;bread&#8221;, but I could have eaten it, because the type (the thing itself, what we call bread) existed, even though our token (arbitrary collection of sounds and/or letters we use to represent it, i.e. &#8220;bread&#8221;)  didn&#39;t.  If I call the city in Italy &#8220;Florence&#8221; and the Italians call it &#8220;Firenze&#8221;, does that mean we&#39;re not talking about the same place?  I&#39;m really having trouble following your logic, so any elaboration would be helpful in actually seeking the truth <img src="http://afcmin.org/ateam/wp-includes/images/smilies/simple-smile.png" alt=":)" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi SeekerOfTruth.
I appreciate your comments, although I have to admit you don&#039;t seem to have made any attempt to interact with what I actually wrote.  I&#039;m also not entirely sure what point you were attempting to drive at.  But I thought I should make a few comments anyway.
First, I wasn&#039;t using the KJV.  I was using a more modern translation, the ESV, which is more accurate than the KJV precisely because it uses many of the oldest Greek and Hebrew manuscripts. 
Second, I&#039;m curious as to what scrolls you&#039;re referring to (dead sea scrolls perhaps?) and how you know that so many &quot;conflicting&quot; manuscripts were left out (and also, which conflicting manuscripts you&#039;re referring to).
Third, what do mean when you say &quot;improperly transferred&quot;?  Are you  referring to scribal transmissions and subsequent translations into other languages?  If so, then not only are the scribal errors mostly inconsequential, but we have New Testament manuscripts dating back to the 2nd century, and we know that the Bible we have today matches up with those manuscripts.  In other words, we have evidence that there has not been nearly as much &quot;transmission error&quot; of the Bible as some sensationalist skeptics have purported.  
Fourth, I&#039;m not at all sure what you were trying to get at with the Babel incident and the fact that Jesus&#039; name in Hebrew is Yeshua.  Could you explain that some more?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi SeekerOfTruth.<br />
I appreciate your comments, although I have to admit you don&#39;t seem to have made any attempt to interact with what I actually wrote.  I&#39;m also not entirely sure what point you were attempting to drive at.  But I thought I should make a few comments anyway.<br />
First, I wasn&#39;t using the KJV.  I was using a more modern translation, the ESV, which is more accurate than the KJV precisely because it uses many of the oldest Greek and Hebrew manuscripts.<br />
Second, I&#39;m curious as to what scrolls you&#39;re referring to (dead sea scrolls perhaps?) and how you know that so many &#8220;conflicting&#8221; manuscripts were left out (and also, which conflicting manuscripts you&#39;re referring to).<br />
Third, what do mean when you say &#8220;improperly transferred&#8221;?  Are you  referring to scribal transmissions and subsequent translations into other languages?  If so, then not only are the scribal errors mostly inconsequential, but we have New Testament manuscripts dating back to the 2nd century, and we know that the Bible we have today matches up with those manuscripts.  In other words, we have evidence that there has not been nearly as much &#8220;transmission error&#8221; of the Bible as some sensationalist skeptics have purported.<br />
Fourth, I&#39;m not at all sure what you were trying to get at with the Babel incident and the fact that Jesus&#39; name in Hebrew is Yeshua.  Could you explain that some more?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And what is the true source? It&#039;s interesting people always want to go to the KJ version of the bible. When in fact the bible itself comes from many different scrolls in many different languages. Most of the scrolls were intentionally left out because of the conflicting natures and most were improperly transfered. The old testament came from the Hebrew, the new testament came from the Greek translations.  The Hebrews/Jews only followed the first 4 books of the old testament called the Torah. We often forget the man that man call Jesus, translated from the Greek language and beliefs, was a Hebrew/Jew.?????  The word Jesus and for that matter Christian, could not have been said 2000 years ago because there was no English dialect. So what was his true name? What language was his true name in? What religious philosophy did he truly follow?  People will say it doesn&#039;t matter what his name is but it does. That&#039;s the deception. Language. Even as the scriptures say in Genesis 11:1-9. There was one language. 99% of the people who &quot;read&quot; and not &quot;study&quot; the bible, don&#039;t know what that language was. The scripture says God intentionally confused the laguages, although other scriptures say that God does not cause confusion. So anything after the tower of babel has been just that &quot;Babel&quot;, confusion by way of the languages. It&#039;s right there in black and white.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what is the true source? It&#39;s interesting people always want to go to the KJ version of the bible. When in fact the bible itself comes from many different scrolls in many different languages. Most of the scrolls were intentionally left out because of the conflicting natures and most were improperly transfered. The old testament came from the Hebrew, the new testament came from the Greek translations.  The Hebrews/Jews only followed the first 4 books of the old testament called the Torah. We often forget the man that man call Jesus, translated from the Greek language and beliefs, was a Hebrew/Jew.?????  The word Jesus and for that matter Christian, could not have been said 2000 years ago because there was no English dialect. So what was his true name? What language was his true name in? What religious philosophy did he truly follow?  People will say it doesn&#39;t matter what his name is but it does. That&#39;s the deception. Language. Even as the scriptures say in Genesis 11:1-9. There was one language. 99% of the people who &#8220;read&#8221; and not &#8220;study&#8221; the bible, don&#39;t know what that language was. The scripture says God intentionally confused the laguages, although other scriptures say that God does not cause confusion. So anything after the tower of babel has been just that &#8220;Babel&#8221;, confusion by way of the languages. It&#39;s right there in black and white.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When working with the right motivation, prices are eagerly paid, pain is numbed, and the strenuous often passes hardly noticed.  In Jesus&#039; yoke, grace frees us unto following him out of holy love.  Perhaps, his yoke is the lightest in as much as we actually -take- it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When working with the right motivation, prices are eagerly paid, pain is numbed, and the strenuous often passes hardly noticed.  In Jesus&#39; yoke, grace frees us unto following him out of holy love.  Perhaps, his yoke is the lightest in as much as we actually -take- it.</p>
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