God's Glory in Creation, Part 3

Date August 27, 2008 Posted by Roger Overton

How is God Glorified
in Creation?

Heavens Declare God’s Glory

Hopefully, your recall that one aspect of glory is that it
is visible. Psalm 19 tells us that the heavens declare God’s glory. The heavens
particularly are unique because they are seen every day and from everywhere in
the world. Though God’s glory is manifested through all of creation, including
his people, the heavens are an objective reminder that God’s glory is at all
times over all things.

This image was taken by the Hubble Telescope looking out at the universe from within our solar system. Each light is a galaxy full of its own solar systems and planets. This vast expanse conveys God's glory through the detail of His creative mind.


Mt.
McKinley is the tallest peak in the United States. It speaks to the majestic renown of God's glory.


Jack Bauer is evidence of God's image in man. 'Nuf said.


The eyeball, apart from being kind of gross, is just one of
many examples of how much care God took in creating us. In it we see a
complexity of parts that work together for our good and God’s glory. Light
passes into the eye through the pupil (the black dot in the centre of your eye)
and forms an upside down picture of what you are looking at on your retina which
is a sensitive message receptor. The optic nerve sends messages to your brain
about the picture. Then the brain turns the picture the right way up again.

Our other body parts have the same depth of
complexity, each that God designed and brought into existence, and all of these
work together to form a living, breathing, human being. It is sometimes easier
for us to look at the mountains or the sea or the stars and marvel at how
glorious God is, but we often miss that his greatest creations are those who we
interact with every day. Even here in our small church we are surrounded an
amazing amount of creativity, intelligence and beauty in each other and God did
this all for his glory.

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God's Glory in Creation, Part 2

Date August 26, 2008 Posted by Roger Overton

Objections to God
Creating For His Own Glory

Edwards anticipated four objections to this teaching, and I
think it would be beneficial for us to consider at least the first three in
summary his responses in defense of God’s Word.

1)      The
first objection is that this view somehow makes God dependent on creation for
his completeness. Edwards argued that that God’s glory and happiness are in and
of himself and cannot be lost or added to. However, it does not follow that God
does not delight in his creatures or the in how he works in them.

a.       The
essence of Edwards’ defense is that the glory or praise received from his
creation is the result of God’s working in it. So it may be said that God
receives no glory from creation but that he gives himself.

b.      Edwards
argued that, “it is evident, by both Scripture and Reason, infinitely,
eternally, unchangeably, and independently glorious and happy; that he cannot
be profited by, or receive anything from the creature; or be the subject of any
sufferings, or diminution of his glory and felicity, from any other being.”

c.       “Now
if God himself be the last end, then in his dependence on his end, he depends
on nothing but himself. If all things be of him and to him, and he the first
and the last, this shows him to be all in all. He is all to himself.”

d.      I
might add that if we remember the definitions of glory, we should be able to
avoid this problem. God is eternally glorious in the summation of his
perfections. No amount of creation or lack of creation can change that. But God
created us for the sort of glory that is of honor and reputation, and we not
only have the ability, but also the responsibility, to give him this sort of
glory.

2)      The
second objection is one we considered earlier. Doesn’t this view communicate
that God acts out of selfishness? Edwards responded, “But God if God be indeed
so great and so excellent that all other beings are as nothing to him, and all
other excellency be as nothing and less than nothing, then it is fit that he
should value himself infinitely more than his creatures.”

a.       Edwards
also pointed out that we benefit from God acting for his own glory. When God
works in our world by communicating his goodness, love and holiness, we glean
from his glory as well. So our own well-being and God’s self-glorification are not
opposed to each other but occur simultaneously. Furthermore, there is nothing
more loving than for God to exalt himself for our enjoyment.

3)      The
final objection we will consider today is that it is in some way contemptible
for God to do his good works for the praise of men. In other words, this
doctrine seems to make God a “show-off,” someone who feels the need to flaunt
their greatness at others.

a.       Edwards,
in response, pointed toward God’s infinite worth. Since God is the most
valuable and worthy being in existence, it only makes sense that we should
delight in his work and praise him for it. We praise each other for much lesser
deeds, why would we not praise God for his great deeds? And why would it be
wrong for him who is perfect to expect and require our praise?

b.      In
fact, glorifying God is in itself a good thing, so what is contemptible is to
withhold praise where it is due.

c.       We
should also consider our own wretchedness. Seeing as we are depraved beings, we
do not naturally glorify God as we should. You might recall that Romans tells
us we have all fallen short of God’s glory. That we can glorify God at all is a
testimony to the glory of God’s grace in our lives.

So I think we can safely say, after considering so much
scripture this morning, and after considering these objections, that God’s
purpose in creating was his own glory. We should next consider how it is that
God is glorified in his creation.

*All quotes from Edwards are from God's Passion for his Glory by John Piper (1998, Crossway)

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God's Glory in Creation, Part 1

Date August 25, 2008 Posted by Roger Overton

The End for Which God
Created the World

I’m very grateful for the church where I grew up in my
faith. Many wonderful men and women of God at that church taught, challenged,
and inspired my faith. One of the things I learned there, however, always
bothered me a bit. I remember one Sunday in high school someone teaching on why
God had created the world. This intrigued me, since the reason for why God
created the world is really the same reason for which we were created.

The teacher explained that God created us because he wants
to be loved by us. At first, I thought this was genius. Of course! God is all
about love, so it only makes sense that God would create people who could love
in order to receive love from them.

Over the years I became less and less satisfied with this
explanation. God is love, and he is love from eternity as exemplified in the
community of the trinity. God was never lacking in love or deficient in any
other way. He does not depend on his creation to receive love, he has received
it from eternity. Also, and more importantly, I could never find a passage of
scripture that seemed to support this view.

So what explanation does the Bible give for God’s creation?
You might have guessed by now that God created, just as he does all other
things, for his own glory. We see in our text that those whom God formed and
made, which is everyone, God created for his glory. But God also created the
entire world for his glory.

Psalm 8:1

O Lord, our Lord, how majestic
is your name in all the earth! You have set your glory above the heavens.

Psalm 19:1

The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky above proclaims his handiwork.

Psalm 104: 30-32

When you send forth your Spirit, they
are created, and you renew the face of the ground. May the glory of the Lord endure forever; may the Lord
rejoice in his works, who looks on the earth and it trembles, who touches the
mountains and they smoke.

Jonathan Edwards wrote a dissertation, which is practically
book length, defending the proposition that God’s purpose in creating the world
was his glory. Apart from providing evidence from scripture as I have already
done this morning, Edwards also reasoned from scripture, saying,

“All things else, with regard to worthiness, importance, and
excellence, are perfectly as nothing in comparison of him. And therefore, if God
has respect to things according to their nature and proportions, he must
necessarily have the greatest respect to himself.”

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Obama And McCain At Saddleback Civil Forum

Date August 16, 2008 Posted by David N

For those of you who haven't heard, Pastor Rick Warren will be hosting both Presidential candidates at a “civil forum” today, held at his Saddleback church. 

The forum begins at 5 pm and ends at 7 pm, Pacific time. 

You can watch it live online, here.

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An Introduction to the Glory of God (Pt 5)

Date August 16, 2008 Posted by Roger Overton

How can we glorify
God?

The final question we must consider in reflecting on glory
is: how can we glorify God?

We are instructed to glorify God in all that we do, so there
are, of course, countless ways we can do so. Puritan Thomas Watson expounded on
17 ways. I won’t give you quite as many, but I will borrow a few from Watson.

1)      We
glorify God when we prefer him over all other people or things. When we truly
exalt God and have no other idols before him, he is glorified in our lives.

2)      We
glorify God when we proclaim his goodness despite hardships, persecution or
suffering we may face. We must remember that for those who love God, he causes
all things together for good.

3)      We
glorify God when we obey him. Though some commandments in the Bible belong to
past covenants, not all do, and God’s holiness stands forever. When we obey his
commandments we show his holiness and he is glorified.

4)      We
glorify God when we confess and repent of our sins. We are called to work out
our salvation with fear and trembling. This is the process of sanctification,
and when we submit to God’s work in our lives to sanctify us, his glory is made
known.

5)      We
glorify God when we are fruitful with what he has given us. The church has been
given many gifts with which to build up the body of Christ and serve those
around us. When we make use of these gifts we show God’s glory to others.

6)      We
glorify God by living in his joy. Whatever trials we face in life, our joy is
to lie in Christ’s sacrificial love and knowledge that we will spend eternity
with him.

7)      We
glorify God when we share and defend his truth to others. We are called to
contend earnestly for the faith that was delivered to the saints and we are
called to preach the gospel that others may come to know God and his glory.

8)      We
glorify God when we are good stewards with what he has blessed us with. This
includes not only money and time, but also our relationships. When husbands
take seriously their calling to lead their families and raise God-fearing
children, they and their families glorify God.

9)      We
glorify God when reflect his character in our lives. We have all sinned and
fallen short of God’s glory, but by God’s grace, we do not always sin. Those
who strive for honesty, purity and integrity will glorify God in their
thoughts, words, and deeds.

10)  We glorify
God when we care for one another. Jesus prayed for his disciples saying that
the unity of his people will cause others to believe he was sent by the Father.
We are to love our neighbors as ourselves, but as Christ’s followers, we are
especially to love one another for the sake of the gospel and for God’s glory
to be demonstrated among his people.

There are, of course, many other ways we can glorify God,
but I will end there so that we can move on to the second half of the sermon.
We have explored how glory and glorification are used in the Bible, who is
supposed to glorify God, and how we can glorify God. Now we will look to the
first topic in our series on Soli Deo Gloria: how God is glorified in creation.

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An Introduction to the Glory of God (Pt 4)

Date August 15, 2008 Posted by Roger Overton

Who is to glorify
God?

God’s People are to Glorify God:

1 Cor 6:19-20

Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy
Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought with a price. So glorify God
in your body.

1 Cor. 10:31

So, whether you eat or drink, or whatever you do, do all to
the glory of God.

Ephesians 3:20-21

Now to him who is able to do far more abundantly than all
that we ask or think, according to the power at work within us, to him be glory
in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, forever and ever.
Amen.

1 Peter 2:12

Keep your conduct among the Gentiles honorable, so that when
they speak against you as evildoers, they may see your good deeds and glorify
God on the day of visitation.

All people:

Psalm 86:9

All the nations you have made shall come and worship before
you, O Lord, and shall glorify your name.

Revelation 15:4

Who will not fear, O Lord, and glorify your name? For you
alone are holy. All nations will come and worship you, for your righteous acts
have been revealed.”

All created things will glorify God:

Psalm 19:1

The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky above proclaims his handiwork.

Isaiah 43:20

The wild beasts will honor me, the jackals and the
ostriches, for I give water in the wilderness, rivers in the desert, to give
drink to my chosen people,

Luke 19:37-40

As he was drawing near—already on the way down the Mount of Olives—the whole multitude of his disciples
began to rejoice and praise God with a loud voice for all the mighty works that
they had seen, saying, “Blessed is the King who comes in the name of the Lord!
Peace in heaven and glory in the highest!” And
some of the Pharisees in the crowd said to him, “Teacher, rebuke your
disciples.” He answered, “I tell you, if these were silent, the
very stones would cry out.”

So we have seen that God’s people are to glorify God, as
well as all nations and even all of creation. But most importantly, Scripture
declares that God will glorify God.

God Glorifies God

When we recite the answer to the first question of the
Westminster Shorter Catechism, that man’s chief end is to glorify God and enjoy
him forever, we often follow it up with a slight revision. We also state that
God’s chief end is to glorify himself, and enjoy himself forever.

This, unfortunately, is not a popular teaching today. New
Testament scholar Ben Witherington had this to say regarding a recent book that
teaches God seeks to bring glory to himself:

“There were various nuances and amplifications to the
discussion, but the more one read, the more it appeared clear that God was
being presented as a self-centered, self-referential being, whose basic motivation
for what he does, including his motivation for saving people, is so that he
might receive more glory… I suppose we should not be surprised that in a
culture and age of narcissism, we would recreate God in our own self-centered
image, but it is surprising when we find orthodox Christians, and even careful
scholars doing this.”

Not too far from us is a rather popular preacher named
Robert Schuller. In one of his books he said, “Classical theology has erred in its insistence that theology be
'God-centered,' not 'man-centered'.”

Perhaps it is unwise for those who gather in glass
cathedrals to throw such stones, since the teaching that God is God-centered is
throughout the Bible. We have already looked at Isaiah 48, where God declared
that he does things for his own sake.

Isaiah 43:6-7

I will say to the north, Give up, and to the south, Do not
withhold; bring my sons from afar and my daughters from the end of the earth,
everyone who is called by my name, whom I created for my glory, whom I formed
and made.

Jeremiah 13:11

I made the whole house of Israel
and the whole house of Judah
cling to me, declares the Lord, that they might be for me
a people, a name, a praise, and a glory.

John 7:18

The one who speaks on his own authority seeks his own glory;
but the one who
seeks the glory of him who sent him is true, and in him there is no
falsehood.

John 12:27-28

“Now is my soul troubled. And what shall I say? ‘Father, save me from this hour?’ But
for this purpose I have come to this hour. Father, glorify your name.’
Then a voice came from heaven, ‘I have glorified it, and I
will glorify it again’

John 14:3

Whatever you ask in my name, this I will do, that the Father may be
glorified in the Son.

Ephesians 1:4-6

He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that
we would be holy and blameless before Him. In love He predestined us to
adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind
intention of His will, to the praise of the glory of His grace.

There are many more passages that could be
offered, but it should be clear that God is most certainly concerned with
glorifying himself. Does this make him self-centered? Then so be it, this is
the clear teaching of Scripture, but we must recognize that God’s self-love is
not the same as ours. For us it is sinful to be so self-centered: We are
fallen, wretched beings who in ourselves do not deserve such glory. For us to
be self-centered, we put ourselves before God, who does deserve glory. Since
God is deserving of glory, it is only right that he glorifies himself.

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An Introduction to the Glory of God (Pt 3)

Date August 14, 2008 Posted by Roger Overton

What Is Glory? -The Second Definition

The second definition of glory has to do with honor or
reputation. This is the definition used in Psalm 19:1, where we are told “The
heavens declare the glory of God.” Throughout the Bible we are told that God
does certain things for his glory. We are commanded to do all things to the
glory of God. When things are done for God’s glory, or to glorify him, it is
God’s honor or reputation that is in mind.

This sense of glory is not exclusive to God. The Bible
speaks of people having this sort of glory, and the same word is some times
translated as wealth, honor, or status:

Genesis 31:1

Now Jacob heard that the sons of Laban were saying,
“Jacob has taken all that was our father’s, and from what was our father’s
he has gained all this wealth.”

Genesis 45:13

You must tell my father of all my honor in Egypt,
and of all that you have seen. Hurry and bring my father down here.

Job 19:9

He has stripped from me my glory and taken the crown from my head.

Psalm 49:16-17

Be not afraid when a man becomes rich, when the glory of his house increases. For
when he dies he will carry nothing away; his glory will not go down after him.

We can see in these last couple of verses that this type of
glory is not necessarily the sort of glory esteemed by God. A worthy man, by
God’s standard, is judged by his character. The world considers glory to be
found in other things, such as wealth or social status.

It is this second sort of glory that is in view when we
speak of giving God glory or glorifying him. While these two types of glory are
distinct, they are at times used together, such that God’s glory is both his
perfection and his reputation. We see this in the passage from Isaiah that is
our text for this portion of the sermon.

[re-read Isaiah 48:9-11]

We see that God is obviously concerned with protecting his
reputation when he says “how should my name be profaned?” Each time he says he
does something for his name sake, he is concerned with being known as the God
of glory. This is not the first time we see God’s concern for his reputation.

In Numbers 14, following a rebellion by the Hebrews, God
threatened to wipe out his people and make a nation of Moses. But Moses
interceded on the peoples’ behalf, arguing that if God killed the people the
surrounding nations would say it was because God could not bring them into the
land he had promised. God relented, and though punishment still occurred, he
maintained his glorious reputation by not wiping out the people.

But I do not believe that God’s reputation is the only sense
of glory in mind in Isaiah 48. Remember that the other sense of glory is the
perfection of his attributes. Were God to not be omnipotent or omniscient, he
would not be glorious in this sense. Included also is His holiness, love,
justice and righteousness. If God were to act against any of these qualities,
he would no longer be glorious.

So when God says that he restrained his anger by not cutting
Israel off, he was not only protecting his reputation, but he was also
maintaining his promises to Israel and therefore maintaining his glory. God
could not break his promises and still be glorious. Here we see what God meant
by not giving his glory to another: Though Israel failed in its covenant with
God, God would not fail in his covenant to his people. Though Israel did not
glorify God, God maintained his glory by fulfilling his promises in holiness
and in righteousness. So too, when we fail to glorify God, he is still in glory
as he fulfills his promise to save and sanctify the people he has effectually
called.

John Calvin put it this way, stating that God will not
suffer his glory to be diminished, which it would be, if he were found to be
false or fickle in his promises. God “therefore declares that he will abide by
his promises, because he wishes to vindicate his glory and preserve it entire,
that it may not be in any respect diminished.”

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An Introduction to the Glory of God (Pt 2)

Date August 13, 2008 Posted by Roger Overton

What Is Glory?- The First Definition

Glory seems to be one of those words we use often but give
little thought to. But if glory has something to do with our chief end, if all
glory is due to God alone, and if God does everything for His own glory, we
ought to give the definition of glory some consideration.

There are two ways in which glory is typically used. One way
is to refer to glory as something like an attribute of God. God’s attributes
include his omniscience (knowledge of all things), omnipotence (power over all
things), and immutability (consistency- God never changes).

Glory is like these attributes in that God has always been
and will always be glorious. His glory is in a perfect state. He can neither lose
glory nor have more glory than he already has. If God had no glory, He would
not be God, so it is essential to his nature.

Glory, however, is not technically an attribute of God, but
rather the summation of all His attributes. He is glorious because He is
omniscient, omnipotent, and immutable. Especially since this series is a
focused study on the last of the five “Solas” of the Reformation, it may be
helpful for us to look at how some of the Reformers described glory:

Herman Venema – Glory “denotes all those perfections which
render him infinitely superious to all other beings.” It is the “excellent
estimation by which one is preferred before others.”

Edward Leigh- Glory is the “manifestation and shining forth
of Excellency.”

Thomas Watson- “Glory is the sparkling
of the Deity; it is so co-natural to the Godhead, that God cannot be God
without it.”

Two of these quotes include visual imagery: shining and sparkling.
These allude to another aspect of this sort of glory: radiance. When God’s
glory is manifested visually, it is often described as some sort of shining
radiance.

Exodus 34:29-35

When Moses came down from Mount Sinai,
with the two tablets of the testimony in his hand as he came down from the
mountain, Moses did not know that the
skin of his face shone because he had been talking with God. 30 Aaron and all the people of Israel saw Moses, and behold, the skin of his face shone, and
they were afraid to come near him. 31 But
Moses called to them, and Aaron and all the leaders of the congregation
returned to him, and Moses talked with them. 32 Afterward
all the people of Israel
came near, and he commanded them all that the Lord
had spoken with him in Mount Sinai. 33 And when Moses had finished speaking with them,
he put a veil over his face.

34 Whenever Moses went in
before the Lord to speak with him, he would
remove the veil, until he came out. And when he came out and told the people of
Israel what he was
commanded, 35 the people of Israel would see the face of Moses,
that the skin of Moses' face was
shining. And Moses would put the veil over his face again, until he
went in to speak with him.

Ezekiel 1

4 As I looked, behold, a
stormy wind came out of the north, and a great cloud, with brightness around it, and fire flashing forth continually, and in the midst of the fire, as it were gleaming metal. 

13 As for the likeness of
the living creatures, their appearance was like burning coals of fire, like the appearance of torches moving to and fro among
the living creatures. And the fire was
bright, and out of the fire
went forth lightning. 14 And the
living creatures darted to and fro, like the appearance of a flash of lightning.

22 Over the heads of the
living creatures there was the likeness of an expanse, shining like awe-inspiring crystal, spread out above their
heads.

26 And above the expanse
over their heads there was the likeness of a throne, in appearance like sapphire; and
seated above the likeness of a throne was a likeness with a human appearance. 27 And upward from what had the appearance of his
waist I saw as it were gleaming metal,
like the appearance of fire
enclosed all around. And downward from what had the appearance of his waist I
saw as it were the appearance of fire,
and there was brightness around him. 28 Like the
appearance of the bow that is in the cloud on the day of rain, so was the
appearance of the brightness
all around. Such was the appearance
of the likeness of the glory of the Lord. And
when I saw it, I fell on my face, and I heard the voice of one speaking.

Here we have two examples of God’s glory manifested with
descriptions of radiant brilliance. In the case of Moses, we understand that
God’s glory is so radiant that it even caused Moses’ face to become radiant.
And Moses did not see the fullness of God’s glory, but merely the “back side”
of it as the Lord passed by.

There are some similarities between God’s glory and the sun.
We have never actually seen the sun, but only its atmosphere that sends radiant
beams of light in our direction. It is this light that gives the sun its visual
splendor. Similarly, the visual splendor of God is his glory. When we are
exposed to the sun for too long, we begin to reflect some of its radiance. Some
of us turn to a bright red. Similarly, Moses’ exposure to God’s glory caused
him to reflect some of God’s radiance.

So the first definition of glory is simply the
summation of God’s perfect attributes manifested visually as shining radiance.

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An Introduction to the Glory of God (Pt 1)

Date August 13, 2008 Posted by Roger Overton

Just over a week ago I preached a sermon on Soli Deo Gloria. Over the next two weeks, I'll be adapting the sermon to be posted here on the blog. The audio is also available through my church's podcast. My sermon kicked off a topical series (we usually take a break from verse-by-verse during the summer) on the glory of God. I introduced the topic of God's glory in general, and also addressed how God is specifically glorified through creation.

Introduction

Countless mythologies have developed around the quest for
the meaning of life. People look to adventure, possessions, beauty and love
hoping that they will feel the satisfaction of living out their life’s purpose.
Many look out toward the world, and many look in toward exalting themselves.
Even a few dare to look downward in serving the darkest of beings.

Followers of Christ are those who look upward for their
meaning. We are told in this first answer to the Westminster Shorter Catechism
that man’s ultimate purpose is to glorify God- that God’s glory, above all
else, is why we were created. Our quest for meaning is summed up in God’s
intention from creation. We might even say that our quest ends here, since no
other purpose for our lives is higher or more worthy than God’s glory.

But if God’s glory is our chief end, we should not just
leave it at that. We must endeavor to understand what glory is and why God has
it. We must seek to learn why we should glorify God and how we may do so. Our
task in the coming weeks is to understand how God is glorified in all things
and why this matters to us.

Our text for this series is Romans 11:36… “For from him and
through him and to him are all things. To him be glory forever. Amen.” Today I
will introduce the topic of God’s glory and explore how God is glorified in His
creation as revealed in Scripture. Since God has ordained all things that come
to pass, it is our hope that by the end of this series we will all have a
fuller understanding of how God is glorified in all He has ordained.

Our passages are

            Isaiah 48:9-11 (p609 ESV)

For my name’s sake I defer my
anger, for the sake of my praise I restrain it for you, that I may not cut you
off. Behold, I have refined you, but not as silver; I have tried you in the
furnace of affliction. For my own sake, for my own sake, I do it, for how
should my name be profaned? My glory I will not give to another.

Isaiah 43:6-7 (p603 ESV)

I will say to the north, Give up, and to the south, Do
not withhold; bring my sons from afar and my daughters from the end of the
earth, everyone who is called by my name, whom I created for my glory, whom I
formed and made.

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Local C.S. Lewis Conference This Saturday

Date August 7, 2008 Posted by Roger Overton

I'll be speaking at a C.S. Lewis conference here in Southern California this Saturday. Those in the area will want to check out the happenings. A flyer is available in PDF. Here are the details:

Standing Against the Tide: C. S. Lewis as Philosopher and Critic in the Postmodern Era

Saturday, August 9, 2008, 9:00 am-4:00 pm
     Speakers and Discussion
Dr. Donald T. Williams
Rev. Zachary Bright
Dr. James Prothero
Roger Overton

Vanguard University,Heath 109
55 Fair Drive Costa Mesa, California

$20.00  if you've reserved or told us you're coming
$25.00  at the door

Sunday, August 10, 10:00 am-3:30 pm, Worship Service, Needham Chapel,
Vanguard U.        
         Dr. Donald T.
Williams
  
      1:30 -2:30 pm
      The Journal of Formal Poetry
& The Southern California C S Lewis
Society presents An Afternoon of
Traditional Verse


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